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Mani Hertlein to RonKZ, eMail 9 May 2003
early Zellhöfers of kreis' Ansbach & Aisch/Windsheim

yes I found a 

Johann Konrad Zellhöfer
[RonKZ:  I'm going nuts trying to figure out if this John Konrad is actually my John Michael - both names show up in Bavarian records received from Mani!]

born 4. August 1825
bapt. 7. August 1825
Father: Johann Joseph Zellhöfer, Farmer from Brachbach Nr. 7
Mother Anna Margaretha Z., born as a Hofmann 
Church-Record Obernzenn 1825 page 240

This information is just from single pages, there are not all names (birth, marriage, died); must look on the original Church- books. Is was not possible to do that at my visiting, hope I can to that the next time... 

Well, I cannot see any line to my Zellhöfers, but I think, is must be the same roots... My Z. comes from Austria and setteled in Dietersheim / Unternesselbach / Dottenheim and this aera. And/but Obernzenn /Brachbach is just 10 mls away from this small cities.

[RonKZ:

  • Mani's "My Z." (his oldest known ancestor) is Sebald Zellhofer, born.1577 Gresten,  Austria.  While still in Gresten, vor.1630 (before.1630) Sebald married Barbara (born.1592).
    Their son Thomas was born.1631.  Sometime before 1659 they migrated to Unternesselbach, k.NEA, Bavaria, where the parents died 1662-1669.  Notice the unusual 15-year age difference between Sebald & Barbara.

  • Thomas married Sabrina Maria Gollhofer in Unternesselbach in 1659.  They moved to nearby Dachsbach where both died in 1683.  Doesn't the wife's Gollhofer surname raise a flag?

  • RonKZ's oldest known ancestor is Stephan, born EST.1600 in Gresten.  His son Hanss was born in Gresten

  • Sebald migrated to Bavaria sometime after his marriage to Barbara, and both died in Unternesselbach, k.NEA.  Stephan  both migrated to nearby towns in Bavaria.  Isn't it a good bet Thomas & Stephan were brothers?  Guess we MUST find their parents!]


A marrriage-certificate show me Hans Z. and Margaretha oo 5. Nov 1695, parent of Hans Z. was a Hans Zellhöfer, Farmer from Lentersdorf (you has it from Lendersdorf/Rheinland. I cannot believe that! I think, is was Lentersdorf nearby Dietenhofen, maybe 15 mls away from Obernzenn!! And hundrets of emigrations come to this aera of Dietenhofen after 1650 !!! Thats true!

I think, this is the Lentersdorf that you need! I cannot believe that this Hanz Z. comes from the Rheinland, this is more than 200 mls away!! At this time was no train or airplane and no phone. No, no, is must be "my" Lentersdorf.... see

http://www.stadtplandienst.de/map.asp?sid=bfaed57dd0045325e76983ee49d904ee&ix=105&iy=80&grid=dedatlas

You see (I see..), a lot of work and open questions....By the way, your ancestryfile is very helpful.

Have a nice weekend 

Mani

Your comments, corrections and additions are both requested and very much appreciated by everyone. 
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Thank you ~ Ron Klotz Zellhoefer  ~  eMail " RonKZ"

 

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